Muddled State Contributor Appreciation Post…. per Balls

In the 2nd edition of Balls’ sappy MS Appreciation posts, I want to recognize to more OG’s. Two that were crucial in the process of migrating from ESPN to Facebook, to Shootgap, and finally to MuddledState. They might not be here much anymore, or even at all, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be grateful for them getting us here. They’re Broncos fans, but for a week or two maybe we can look past that.

TheDudeAbides and McNutty… thanks for all your past, present, and future contributions to MuddledState. You are good dudes and without your efforts, we might never made it away from the dreadful AFC West Facebook Fan Page (Yikes!).

Thanks again. FO!

Muddled State Contributor Appreciation Post…. per Balls

“We are in the NFL offseason folks, the dog days of summer. While I do still fully expect the Denver Broncos to be in the news for the Aaron Rodgers trade sweepstakes in the coming weeks, it should be pretty uneventful in NFL news for the next several weeks otherwise.

I haven’t been contributing much, which is good for my personal life, but not so more for my alter ago, Balls from Muddled State. First of all, thank you everyone that keeps this place fun for the time we want to get away from our “normal lives.” This community has been such a good escape, a brotherhood of a bunch of odd ducks from all walks of life here in the US of A. We disagree sometimes, usually respectfully, but we all share many core values including family and football.

I am going to re-dedicate myself as a contributor to this joint for a couple months, not because my football team warrants it, but I think this community warrants it. I intend to post about some/most/maybe all of the folks that make this joint what it is, in appreciation posts.

The first contributor I’d like to thank, is one of the main life bloods that keeps MS going: Sir Robb Fett.

Robb, you might not even see this because your lame ass is never here anymore, but thank you. Without you, this community might have been dead in the water after the ESPN/Facebook era. You helped get us through not only those transitions, but then ShootGap and now MuddledState. That was over 10 years ago. Not a “thanks for getting us through the last 6 months, or a year,” this is a thank you for the last 10+ years of going the extra mile for a couple dozen random schmuck’s from the interwebs.

Your witty, passive aggressive, asshole-ish posts have undoubtedly ruffled many of feathers here, but your overall generosity has not gone unnoticed. Now, put your personal life priorities aside, and come home…. to MuddledState. We need you here, I need you on Fortnite, Lord needs you in the bedroom. Come back to us.

Thank you, Robb.”

-Balls, probably

Weekly Grades and Game Predictions

“No athlete is truly tested until they’ve stared an injury in the face and come out on the other side stronger than ever.”

That could be the mantra for the entire NFL but the AFC West was hit pretty hard too. This week in football we saw so many injuries that it felt like some teams gave up on themselves. I am proud to say that is not the case in the AFC West. Team suffered key loses and still fought to the end. It was really great to see.


The Chiefs, like all of the other teams in the Division had to deal with injuries. Sammy Watkins, Frank Clark, Darrell Williams and Antonio Hamilton all left the game and did not return. Patrick Mahomes was the offense in the game going 27 of 47 (57%) for 302 yards and 2 touchdowns. He was also the leading rusher with 6 carries for 54 yards. Rookie Clyde Edwards-Helaire was held in check with 10 carries for 38 yards and 6 receptions for 32 yards. Tyreek Hill had 5 receptions for 99 yards and a touchdown. The defense was just ok with 2 sacks, 4.5 tackles for loss and 1 interception. The player of the game was Harrison Butker. He was asked to hit a 53 yarder in overtime and did. There was a penalty on the play, move him back 5 yards. He then hit a 58 yards. No good, a timeout was called. He then hit the 58 yarder again. Ice in his veins, BRAVO!!! The Chiefs won on the road but did it against a rookie quarterback and needed overtime to get it done.

Grade: C+

The Chargers got hit hard again this week. Starting Quarterback Tyron Taylor was a scratch right before the start of the game with a chest injury. Bryan Bulaga, Rayshawn Jenkins and Justin Jones left the game and did not return. Justin Herbert stepped in and went 22 of 33 (66%) for 311 yards with 1 touchdown and 1 interception. He also rushed 4 times for 18 yards and 1 touchdown. Austin Ekeler was the leading rusher with 16 carries for 93 yards. He also had 4 receptions for 55 yards. Keenan Allen had 7 receptions for 96 yards. The defense played ok recording 1 sack and 2 tackles for loss. Overall, the Chargers gave the defending champs all they could handle taking them to overtime. It was a good showing.

Grade: B-

The Broncos got hit hard yet again. Starting Quarterback Drew Lock went down with a shoulder injury. Cortland Sutton was lost for the season with a torn ACL. Dre’Mont Jones and DeMarcus Walker were also injured and did not return. Jeff Driskel came in and went 18 of 34 (53%) 256 yards, 2 touchdowns and 1 interception. Melvin Gordon had 19 carries for 70 yards. Cortland Sutton had 3 receptions for 66 yards. The defense played better than expected an had 1 sack, 5 tackles for loss and 1 interception. The offensive line flat out sucked and gave up 7 sacks and 13 tackles for loss. Overall the Broncos played better than expected but it was not quite good enough.

Grade: C

The Raiders had a few injuries. Richie Incognito left the game with an Achilles injury and did not return. The scariest moment was watching Johnathan Abram ran into a cart that was near the field on a goal-line play. He did return. Derek Carr played lights out going 28 of 38 (73%) for 282 yards and 3 touchdowns. Josh Jacobs rushed 27 times for 88 yards and 3 receptions for 17 yards. Darren Waller had 12 receptions for 103 yards and a touchdown. The defense was flat out horrible with no sacks, no tackles for loss and 1 interception. Daniel Carlson was perfect yet again hitting 2 field goals and 4 extra points. Overall the Raiders wanted it more and earned a fantastic win in their home opener at the newly built “Death Star”.

Grade: B+


Las Vegas Raiders at New England Patriots
Going to the East Coast to play The Patriots after a bad lose for them to the Seahawks. Some will say that the Raiders have the momentum. I would say going against The Hoodie after a loss is no bueno. The Raiders will keep it close but in the end they will fall short to Newton and company.

Patriots 34 Raiders 28

Spread: +6 Raiders

Over/Under: 48

Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Denver Broncos
Tom Brady is coming to town with a chip on his shoulder. Denver had his number when he was in New England, will that work now? With all of the injuries and the Bucs finding their running game with Leonard Fournette, this does not look good for the Broncos.

Buccaneers 27 Broncos 17

Spread: +6 Broncos

Over/Under: 43

Carolina Panthers at Los Angeles Chargers
The Chargers are playing some pretty good football. They are also finding out that Justin Herbert is a pretty good player. The Panthers lost their best player in Christian McCaffrey for a month or two. That does not bold well for them coming to Los Angeles.

Chargers 24 Panthers 17

Spread: -6.5 Chargers

Over/Under: 43.5

Kansas City Chiefs at Baltimore Ravens
Another fantastic Monday Night matchup, I love it! The last two league MVPs going toe to toe. This one will be a barn burner coming down to which defense steps up and makes a play. Baltimore is hitting on all cylinders right now and this is in their house.

Ravens 31 Chiefs 27

Spread: +3.5 Chiefs

Over/Under: 53

Week 2: 2-1 Season: 5-2

“Most people give up just when they’re about to achieve success. They quit on the one yard line. They give up at the last minute of the game one foot from a winning touchdown.”
– Ross Perot

Most of you young pups know nothing about the man who ran one of the most successful independent races for President. As journalist Paul Burka wrote in Texas Monthly, “Perot is the candidate of the disaffected, the disenchanted, the fed up: the people whose contempt for politics has passed beyond cynicism to despair.”

Here’s to another great week of football, Cheers!

Weekly Grades and Game Predictions

Well…… what a great weekend of football. The division did pretty damn well (Sorry Broncos) overall. Considering we had no pre-season games and all of the rookies that started in the division, we saw some really good football.

Here are the grades for week one and the predictions for week two in the 101st season of the NFL (Fuck all of you for thinking I was at the first game).



Here is a terrifying thought, the Chiefs offense is even more explosive with the running game they now have. Andy Reid has to be absolutely loving this. Rookies running back Clyde Edwards-Halaire exploded in his first game with 138 rushing yards rushing and 1 touchdown. Patrick Mahomes was 24 of 32 passes (75%) for 211 yards and 3 touchdowns. The defense racked up 4 sacks, 3 tackles for loss and 1 interception. Harrison Butker was perfect with 2 field-goals and 4 extra points. This is what a complete team looks like (I just threw-up on my laptop)

Grade: A+


When you score 16 points on the road with a new quarterback after losing your best defensive player and still find a way to win, that says something about the team. Austin Ekeler led the team with 84 yards on 19 carries while rookie running back Joshua Kelly contributed 60 yards rushing on 12 carries and a touchdown. Tyrod Taylor completed 16 of 30 passes (53%) for 208 yards. Hunter Henry led the team with 5 receptions for 73 yards. The defense had 3 sacks, 6 tackles for loss and 1 interception. Michael Badgley hit 3 of 4 field-goals and his sole extra point. Overall it was a solid performance with the defense leading the way.

Grade: B-


Going on the road to the East Coast and getting a win is a great way to start the season for the Raiders. Josh Jacobs is a flat out monster! He had 93 rushing yards on 25 carries and 3 touchdowns to go with 4 receptions and 46 yards. Rookie receiver Henry Ruggs had 3 receptions for 55 yards to lead the team and 2 carries for 11 yards. Derek Carr complete 22 of 30 passes (73%) for 239 yards and a touchdown. The defense had 1 sack and 2 tackles for loss but came up with two huge stops in the 4th quarter when it mattered the most. Daniel Carlson was perfect with 2 field-goals and 4 extra points. The offense was great, the defense not so much.

Grade: B+


Starting the season at home is great. Playing without your best offensive and defensive players, not so much. To top it off, Bradley Chubb is not 100% coming off knee surgery and Phillip Lindsay and AJ Bouye both went down early in the game. New edition Melvin Gordon had 15 carries for 78 yards and a touchdown to go with 3 receptions for 8 yards. Drew Lock completed 22 of 33 passes (66%) for 216 Yards and a touchdown. Noah Fant led the team with 5 receptions for 81 yards and a touchdown while rookie Jerry Jeudy had 4 receptions for 56 yards (with 2 big drops). This game was not as close as the score and the Broncos have a lot of work to do to get this thing turned around.

Grade: C-



Denver Broncos at Pittsburgh Steelers

Most times game this early in the season don’t mean much, this one does for the Broncos. They cannot start the season 0-2. Unfortunately they are the walking wounded right now and heading to the East Coast to play a team the has their leader back in Ben Roethlisberger. With all the injuries and going up against this defense, things are not looking good for the Broncos.

Steelers 31 Broncos 20 

Spread: +7.5 Broncos 

Over/Under: 41.5


Kansas City Chiefs at Los Angeles Chargers

Division games are always great and even better at the start of the season. This one however is not going to be very nice. The Chiefs are one of if not the most complete teams in the NFL, the Chargers, not so much. I think the Chargers will play hard but won’t be able to slow down this monster for the mid-west.

Chiefs 38 Chargers 17

Spread: +9 Chargers

Over/Under: 47.5


New Orleans Saint st Las Vegas Raiders

So excited for the very first game at home for the Las Vegas Raiders in their new stadium AKA The Death Star. Unfortunately it is against a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback in Drew Brees. The Raiders offense is good enough to win this game, the defense, not so much. This could be a true barn burner.

Saints 34 Raiders 27

Spread: +6 Raiders

Over/Under: 50

Week 1: 3-1

A great NFL saying is simplicity itself: You are never as good or as bad as you looked in week one. This year that takes on an even bigger meaning considering there were no OTAs, mini-camp or pre-season games. By week 3-4 we will start to see some serious improvement in play on both side of the ball.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride! We are only getting started.

AFC West New Updates

Well, we are 8 weeks out to the start of the season. Pre-season football has been cut to only two weeks because of the corona virus. Oakley, has developed a face shield to help protect the players from the virus. The NFL seems to be doing all it can to ensure the season not only happens but starts on time. With cases increasing throughout the country, we can only hope that it does not effect the season (I am starting to think it will).

With all of the craziness, we do have some interesting news in the division staring with the Division and Super Bowl Champion, Kansas City Chiefs (I just threw up in my mouth typing that). Let’s rock and roll!

Kansas City Chiefs
The Chiefs sign QB Mahomes to a 10 year contract for record breaking money:

If one big contract is good than two is better. The Chiefs sign DT Jones to a four year contract extension:

The Chiefs have invested some serious money in both their offensive and defensive lead players. They are going to be a very formitable team over the next few years. FUCK THE CHIEFS!!!

Denver Broncos
With social distancing in mind and the NFL setting standards on how many fans can attend games, the Broncos are one of the first teams to announce they will be refunding season ticket holder a full refund:

The Broncos and FS Simmons fail to reach a long term contract and he will play this year on the Franchise Tag:

Elway has been great at getting long term deals done with franchise tagged players but for the first time he did not accomplish his goal. The virus had quite a bit to do with this. With that said, FUCK THE BRONCOS!!!

Los Angeles Chargers
The Chargers failed to agree with TE Henry on a long term contract so he will play on the Franchise Tag:

The Chargers will be faced with a big decision next year after DE Garrett signed a HUGE contract this year and DE Bosa being a free agent next year:

The Chargers defense should be really good this year. The biggest question is what will the offense be with QB Rivers leaving and who will be the starting signal caller. FUCK THE CHARGERS!!!

Las Vegas Raiders
Raiders make an offer to Free Agent DE Jadeveon Clowney:

Rookie WR Edwards is working out in Vegas with QB Carr and looks really good. He did not run at the Combine because of a foot injury but that looks to be behind him:

The Raiders wide receivers were a weakness last year. I think this year will be different and QB Carr will put up numbers to keep him in the MVP conversation all year. GO RAIDERS!!!

Politics, Covid-19, BLM and Police Brutality. These issues need to be addressed but we need football and we need it now if only to give us something else to talk about. Let’s hope we have a season and maybe a little piece of mind.

2020 NFL Draft – Round 1

On Thursday, the 2020 Draft will be presented across ABC, ESPN, and NFL Network, April 23-25.

NFL Draft

Round 2 and 3 — Friday, April 24 (7-11:30 p.m.)

Round 4, 5, 6, and 7 — Saturday, April 25 (12-7 p.m.)

The NFL Draft Selections for the First Round:

The MS 2020 NFL “Pick-Em” Contest proved to be a winner. 

Ever though the site and layout is utter crap…I think that it is fair to say that we all had a good go at it.

Congratulations to Norie for winning and taking First place.

2020 NFL Draft-A-Thon – Muddledstate Group

So we have made it…the NFL Draft will (should) happen this week.  With 2020 being a brutal and crap year so far, this NFL off-season has helped get us through it all.  So Congratulations on making it this far…

Up this week, we have the NFL 2020 Draft-A-Thon…which is nice.

On Thursday, the 2020 Draft will be presented across

ABC, ESPN, and NFL Network, April 23-25.

NFL Draft Schedule (April 23-25):

Round 1Thursday, April 23 (8-11:30 p.m. ET)

Round 2 and 3Friday, April 24 (7-11:30 p.m.)

Round 4, 5, 6, and 7 Saturday, April 25 (12-7 p.m.)

JoeOG reminded us about doing the – Predict the Prick 2020, and one has been set up.   😉

Group Name: MuddledState 2020

Password: thatsracist



2020 MS Mock Draft: 1st round

2020 MS Mock Draft: 1st Round 


Guys, I think that I’ve figured out a way for us to do a mock draft and buy some time as we wait for future dates.

Rules for the Mock:

  2. Active MS people will be listed to any given NFL Team in the draft.
  3. The Team MS Rep. will have a little time to prepare, review and select the player she wants for the NFL Team.
  4. The Team MS Rep. will need to “announce” his selection for the NFL Team he is selecting for.  This locks it in for others to realize.
  5. The Team MS Rep. can select whomever they they believe would be best for the team.
  6. A mod will go in and add the selection.
    • Example: Seahawks: OG Pickler, Kansas State (Balls)
  7. If we do not see the MS rep. around after 1/2 day…a Mod can shuffle the names to keep things moving. You might lose your turn too.
  8. This project will need the Team MS Rep. + Announcement of selection + Mod involvement for this bitch to keep moving.
  9. Play it real.

The MS NFL Team Rep can make the selection and a mod can feature it…until another mod has time to add it.  IF a mod isnt around and a few selections have been made…just try to keep the selections up top for a Mod to add.

NFL Draft Order // Player // Position // College

  1. WSH Redskins: Chase Young, EDGE, OSU (Rings)
  2. DET Lions: Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson (SDofLa)
  3. NYG Giants: Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama (Jeremyave)
  4. MIA Dolphins Tuna Tagovaiola, QB, Alabama (Nori)
  5. LAC Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon (BC)
  6. CAR Panthers:  Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (Lafrentzj)
  7. ARI Cardinals: Cee Dee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma (JoeyOG)
  8. JAX Jaguars: Javon Kinlaw, IDL, South Carolina (Jackhammer)
  9. CLE Browns: Mekhi Becton, Louisville, OT (Lord Panda)
  10. NYJ NYJets: Henry Ruggs III, Alabama, WR (ljceeb)
  11. LV Raiders:  Jeff Okudah, OSU, CB, (Poe) 
  12. IND Colts:  Jerry “Jeu” Jeudy, WR, Alabama (BH Mac)
  13. TB Bucs: Jordan Love, QB, Utah State (JMC)
  14. DEN Broncos:  Derrick Brown, IDL, Auburn (Balls)
  15. ATL Falcons: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida, (Choochie)
  16. DAL Cowboys:  Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama (Joeog)
  17. MIA Dolphins:  K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE, LSU (JMC)
  18. LV Raiders:  Laviska Shenault Jr, WR, Colorado (Jeremyave)
  19. JAX Jaguars: Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama (Jackhammer)
  20. PHIEagles: Kristian Fulton, CB LSU (BC)
  21. BUF Bills:  Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU (SDofLA)
  22. NE Patriots:  Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame (Rings)
  23. NO Saints: Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson, (Poe)
  24. MIN Vikings:  Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa (BH Mac)
  25. MIA Dolphins: Kenneth Murray, LB Oklahoma (ljceeb)
  26. SEA Seahawks:  Austin Jackson, OT, USC (Balls)
  27. BAL Ravens: Jordan Elliot, IDL, Missouri (Lafrentzj)
  28. TEN Titans:  Terrell Lewis, EDGE, Alabama (Lord Panda)
  29. GB Packers: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU (Norie)
  30. SF 49ers: Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU (Robb)
  31. KC Chiefs:  Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn (Screwitz)

So with this…let the games begin.

If you are going to be gone, let someone know and we will shift names around.  And if you are not interest and you want to be a little bitch…then let Robb know.


Link to the Draft Network for player rankings/info

FA starts soon, and the Draft is in April…so it sounds like everyone is interested to do this again early April.

Super Bowl LIV Chiefs vs. 49ers:

They finally did it!   I’ve been a fan of the Chiefs since I started caring about football (early 90’s) and this has been a long time coming.  After a couple of home playoff wins where the old demons seemed to be back only to be vanquished by Mahomes and crew the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl.

If you put fan loyalties aside I think this is one of the best matchups football fans could of asked for.  Both teams have been excellent most of the year and both teams have exciting big play potential.  The Chiefs big plays tend to come on offense where the 49ers defense is usually the ones making big plays.  This game should be a battle and I expect a close high scoring affair.  Look for a key turnover or two to determine the out come.

There are many good story lines for this game.  From Dee Ford, to the new young QBs and even to Andy Reid with another opportunity to cement his claim as one of the all time greats.  I’m not going to get into all of them here.  What follows will be what I see as the keys to the game for each team and a game prediction.

49ers Key to the Game: Run the damn ball. I think we will see the 49ers try to keep up what has been working and that is run the ball.  If they can keep their offense on the field and run through KC like they did the Packers then that’s exactly what they will do.  While the 49ers are better equipped to do some damage through the air than the Titans were the Chiefs defensive strength has been in defending the pass.

On the defensive side the 49ers have to pressure Mahomes (with 4) while containing him inside the pocket.  Don’t give him an escape route and don’t give him too much time to have receivers get open.  There is tons of speed on the 49ers defense and this will be the biggest challenge Mahomes has faced all year.

Chiefs Keys to the Game:  The offensive line needs to hold up against a nasty front 7.  Give Mahomes the time he needs to survey the field and give the receivers the time to find the soft spot in the zone coverage.  49ers play mostly zone and they are very good at it.  Mahomes is also very good passing against zone coverage, strength vs. strength.  I also think screens will be a big part of this game to slow down the 49ers aggressiveness.    

On defense the Chiefs must first prove yet again they can slow down or stop the run.   They need to play as a team to fill the holes in the run game and seal the outside edge. Their goal should be to get to 3rd and 5+ and make Jimmy G beat you. This season the Chiefs have been very good at defending the pass when the can pin their ears back and rush the passer.

It’s a very similar breakdown of the Titans game and that is because I view the Niners as a much better version of the Titans.

Both these teams have tons and tons of talent and this Niners team will be the toughest challenge the Chiefs have faced.  While only 1 point I was personally surprised the Chiefs were the favored team.

In the end I see Mahomes continuing what has been a historically good playoffs.  I see the Chiefs defense stepping up again against the run and forcing more passes than the 49ers would ideally like and I see Jimmy G throwing a key pick.   I can’t wait for this game, this season has been amazing and the Chiefs are one win from their ultimate goal.

Chiefs win: 34-31

AFCW Week 13 Preview

Well…………Its safe to say that last week was a clusterfuck as big as a monkey fucking a football. Denver was destroyed by Buffalo and the Raiders were bitch slapped by the Jets. The Chargers and Chiefs were on their bye week and that was the best thing that happened to the division. This week we have the AFC West vs the AFC West. Let’s get into it.

Chargers at Broncos
The Chargers are traveling to the winter wonderland that is Denver to play the Broncos. The weather is calling for a high of 39 degrees. Perfect weather for running the ball and controlling the clock. The only question is which team will actually do that. Both teams have good running games with two good backs. To make things even more interesting, Rivers has started to regress and that is a big factor. Both teams have good pass rushers. The more you look at this game the more interesting it becomes.

The Broncos are a very tough team to beat at home and even harder in cold weather. The Chargers play well on the road against division teams and I expect them to do exactly that. This game will come down to a big play or two , a commitment to the run and great defense.

My Prediction: Broncos 23 Chargers 20

Fantasy Player of the Game: The running backs for both teams are a great call. Eckler/Gordon and Lindsay/Freeman. The only bad part is which duo will show up.

(Sidenote from Balls: Never trust a man that sports this look)

Raiders at Chiefs
This is a red flag game for the Raiders in every way. Carr has never won in Kansas City and he does not play well in the cold. To make matter worse, Andy Reid does not lose coming off a bye week. His teams are always ready. Add in it is a home game, that is like 3 strikes right there. Let’s take it a step further, WR Hill is playing which is not good for the Raiders but great for the Chiefs.

The Raiders have a great run game and are pissed after being destroyed by the Jets. That is the Chiefs weakest link. The Chiefs are well aware and are going to be ready for this. They also know that the Raiders have a huge issue with speed receivers which they have plenty of. This is going to be a the game that defines the division.

My Prediction: Chiefs 42 Raiders 17

Fantasy Player of the Game: Tyreek Hill is coming back and with his speed, the Raiders are in trouble. This guy is a nightmare for most teams but even worse for a bad secondary.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and your families!

The OG, AKA The Old Fart